usaa brings advice. call or visit us online. we're ready to help. >> welcome back, everybody, americans united for separation of church and state, wants to end prayers at west point military academy. the group claims they have been-- seeing some complaints about praying at official events. however, west point leaders say although praying is a tradition, it is also voluntary. executive vice-president of family research counseling, lieutenant general joins us now, he spent 36 years in the u.s. army. good to see you, sir. >> hey, it's good to be with you this morning. >> dave: here is a quote from this group. west point cadets should be able to train for service in our nation's military without having religion forced upon them. academy officials must respect the religious liberty rights of all cadets who should be free to make their own decisions about prayer without government could ercion. >> what is your reaction to their complaint? >> they've attacked the military several times and an anti-christian organization. that has been